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sniffnoy(21:30:57) FallMists: hey
(21:31:04) FallMists: i want info on this darwin fish incident
(21:31:13) FallMists: and is anyone writing a petition to the school?
(21:31:25) FallMists: because i will and i'll send it to all the other graduated seniors
(21:31:36) FallMists: but that's different what whatever you guys still there might be doing
(21:33:09) Sniffnoy: well, I don't know too much about it - I do know it definitely happened, I do know he definitely took his own fish down, and I do know he thanked us for the support but said not to put them up ourselves before Mike and Amit explained to the administration
(21:33:09) FallMists : dinner time!
(21:33:29) FallMists: mike and amit?
(21:33:31) FallMists: explain what
(21:33:39) Sniffnoy: Mike Lazarro and Amit Sid, like I said in the entry
(21:33:51) FallMists: you did?
(21:33:54) FallMists: hmm maybe i missed that
(21:33:55) FallMists: hold
(21:33:59) ***Sniffnoy checks too
(21:34:20) Sniffnoy: ah, I see
(21:34:44) FallMists: ok i see
(21:34:46) FallMists: but besides that
(21:34:51) FallMists: you guys really should write a petition
(21:35:08) FallMists: explaining to the administration that they are letting religion into a PUBLIC school classroom
(21:35:16) FallMists: evolution is *not* a belief
(21:35:21) FallMists: it's nothing something that can be debated
(21:35:30) FallMists: by definition, evolution is a scientific fact.. it happens
(21:35:41) FallMists: whether you believe humans evolved from monkeys or whatever else is another story
(21:35:51) FallMists: you don't have to believe that evolution created humans, but evolution itself happens
(21:36:03) FallMists: evolution - change in a species over time
(21:36:16) Sniffnoy: I don't believe the administration has gotten involved yet... it's just been person complained, Niedosik took it down, we put fish up - no administration yet
(21:36:21) FallMists: i see
(21:36:30) FallMists: so niedosik wasn't ordered to take them down?
(21:36:32) FallMists: are you sure?
(21:36:38) FallMists: my brother tells me he thinks he was
(21:37:30) Sniffnoy: from what I'm told, the person actually threatened to sue (!) and he didn't want to get into any trouble, BICBW
(21:38:09) Sniffnoy: ask someone else
(21:38:14) FallMists: erffffffffff
(21:38:26) FallMists: you're my source of info
(21:38:26) FallMists: bah!
(21:40:17) ***Sniffnoy shrugs
(21:40:29) FallMists: grrrrrr
(21:40:32) FallMists: useless
(21:41:42) Sniffnoy: ooh maybe if this whole thing doesn't end soon, we should try doing something like going to Mr. Sayres and insisting he take down his astronomy posters, as our religion says the other planets orbit the Earth :D
(21:42:08) FallMists: ROFL
(21:42:11) FallMists: that'd be great
(21:42:30) FallMists: you ought to find out whether niedosik was taking independent action or was it admins
(21:42:38) FallMists: if it was the admins, you really should write a petition
(21:42:41) Sniffnoy: yah
(21:42:42) FallMists: b/c that's just wrong
(21:43:05) Sniffnoy: right
(21:43:14) Sniffnoy: I'll ask about it
(21:43:28) FallMists: ok
(21:43:29) FallMists: let me know
(21:43:36) FallMists: i'm visitng the academy tomorrow along w/some friends
(21:43:42) FallMists: around lunchtime or something
(21:45:15) Sniffnoy: well Rajesh says it was administrative orders so now you don't know at all :P
(21:45:21) FallMists: lol
(21:45:28) FallMists: i think it was admins but it's all just rumors
(21:45:33) FallMists: if it is
(21:45:37) Sniffnoy: he says that's what came from Mike and Amit... mabye best just to ask Niedosik himself
(21:45:37) FallMists: petition time
(21:45:45) FallMists: niedosik might not tell
(21:46:06) FallMists: i'm inclined to thinkn the admins ordered it just because they're so freaking scared of lawsuits
(21:46:10) FallMists: rightfully so in a way
(21:46:11) FallMists: but really
(21:46:36) Sniffnoy: brb
(21:46:42) FallMists: k
(21:50:21) Sniffnoy: hah yes it did seem kind of strange that Niedosik was being so cautious... well if Mike and Amit said it was admins' orders I suppose it's probably true
(21:50:46) FallMists: yeah
(21:50:47) FallMists: in that case
(21:50:51) FallMists: confirm and then petition
(21:51:00) FallMists: i really will send somehting around
(21:51:03) FallMists: if it's true
(21:52:00) Sniffnoy: and eventually the astronomy posters :D
(21:52:47) FallMists: hahah'
(21:55:08) fantasychrono: i g0t my b00ks!
(21:55:09) fantasychrono: yay
(21:55:16) Sniffnoy: yaaay! - what books?
(21:55:37) fantasychrono: 4 history
(21:55:40) fantasychrono: i got five books
(21:55:43) fantasychrono: for the paper
(21:55:44) Sniffnoy: oh
(21:55:45) Sniffnoy: heh
(21:56:03) fantasychrono: now i have all my sources ready
(21:56:15) Sniffnoy: what are your other sources?
(21:56:20) fantasychrono: five website
(21:56:20) fantasychrono: s
(21:56:22) fantasychrono: actually
(21:56:25) fantasychrono: i need 3 more journal articles
(21:56:28) fantasychrono: but those are easy to get
(21:56:33) fantasychrono: ill get them tomorrow
(21:56:35) Sniffnoy: ...what's this about journal articles?
(21:56:36) fantasychrono: during school
(21:56:40) fantasychrono: u need evenly balanced
(21:56:44) fantasychrono: journal articles
(21:56:46) fantasychrono: or just plain articles
(21:56:50) fantasychrono: websites
(21:56:54) fantasychrono: books
(21:56:59) Sniffnoy: um... don't you just need 10-15 sources?
(21:57:03) Sniffnoy: where's it say this?
(21:57:05) fantasychrono: evenly distributed
(21:57:11) fantasychrono: it says it near the 10-15
(21:57:13) Sniffnoy: on?
(21:57:32) Sniffnoy: ah, I see it
(21:57:32) fantasychrono: the format paper
(21:57:34) fantasychrono: hehe
(21:57:38) Sniffnoy: crap
(21:57:48) fantasychrono: these books come just shy of saying
(21:57:52) Sniffnoy: oh, wait, it doesn't actually specify what that means
(21:57:55) fantasychrono: "Good job Tom. Your essay is finished."
(21:58:01) fantasychrono: thats what he said
(21:58:19) fantasychrono: The magic grading one
(21:58:37) fantasychrono: I played wiht geometer's sketchpad for hours
(21:58:38) Sniffnoy: well there is no way I am finding 7 more websites and 7 more articles...
(21:58:46) fantasychrono: y u need 7 and 7?
(21:58:57) Sniffnoy: I have 8 books, a website, and a newspaper article
(21:59:01) fantasychrono: heeh
(21:59:06) fantasychrono: but that makes it more than 15 sources
(21:59:10) Sniffnoy: and was planning on adding 1 more website
(21:59:14) Sniffnoy: exactly
(21:59:19) fantasychrono: lol
(21:59:26) fantasychrono: my books:
(21:59:33) fantasychrono: The Rise and Fall of the British Empire
(21:59:41) fantasychrono: Murders on the Nile
(21:59:45) fantasychrono: The Crisis of Islam
(21:59:52) fantasychrono: Unholy War: Terror in the Name of Islam
(22:00:11) fantasychrono: Osama Bin Laden - A War Against the West
(22:00:13) fantasychrono: thats it
(22:00:22) fantasychrono: but they all have really good evidence
(22:00:26) fantasychrono: got them all today
(22:10:09) Sniffnoy: OK, now I do have another website source :P
(22:10:12) fantasychrono: lol
(22:10:13) fantasychrono: good
(22:12:31) Sniffnoy: so now it's 8-2-1 :P
(22:12:36) fantasychrono: hehe
(22:14:20) Sniffnoy: OK, random fact of the day: the speed of a tsunami equals sqrt(g/water depth)
(22:14:25) fantasychrono: YAY!
(22:14:26) Sniffnoy: er
(22:14:28) Sniffnoy: whoops
(22:14:34) Sniffnoy: sqrt(g*water depth)
(22:14:40) fantasychrono: aww
(22:14:40) fantasychrono: hehe
(22:15:15) Sniffnoy: actually that's true for all shallow water waves
(22:15:29) Sniffnoy: (tsunamis act as shallow water waves because of their huge wavelengths)
(22:15:35) fantasychrono: YAY!
(22:19:02) Sniffnoy: OK, make that 3 internet sources
(22:19:10) fantasychrono: GOODy
(22:19:15) fantasychrono: what was the third quesitno on the board for history
(22:19:17) Sniffnoy: (wow I can't believe I'm citing Wikipedia :P )
(22:19:18) fantasychrono: thats due tomorrow - friday
(22:19:25) fantasychrono: there will be no citing of wikipedia
(22:19:27) fantasychrono: ii think he knows about it
(22:19:35) Sniffnoy: hm, true
(22:19:48) Sniffnoy: I'll search for it elsewhere
(22:19:49) fantasychrono: vat is third question ? : (
(22:20:03) Sniffnoy: I don't know - that's due? it wasn't on the homework thing on the left...
(22:22:33) Sniffnoy: gah google turns up nothing
(22:22:43) fantasychrono: lol
(22:22:46) fantasychrono: raaar
(22:22:47) fantasychrono: lol
(22:22:49) Sniffnoy: well
(22:22:50) Sniffnoy: no
(22:22:58) Sniffnoy: it turns up 3 things, all of which appear to be what I want
(22:23:04) fantasychrono: whats freaking me out is that i read like 3/4 of five books
(22:23:05) Sniffnoy: the problem is they're not in English!
(22:23:07) fantasychrono: lol owned
(22:24:02) Sniffnoy: "if we assume 'optil 12 km inn over land' means 'up to 12 km over land'..."
(22:24:09) fantasychrono: LOL
(22:24:11) fantasychrono: haha
(22:24:31) Sniffnoy: ah well
(22:24:36) Sniffnoy: I'll just not mention this
I can't believe the LJ spellchecker doesn't accept "Osama"...
-Sniffnoy
--
Question: if ignorance is fear, and man's ignorance has no limit, isn't
the sum of all fears not defined?
(taken from Josh Zelinsky's away message)
(21:31:04) FallMists: i want info on this darwin fish incident
(21:31:13) FallMists: and is anyone writing a petition to the school?
(21:31:25) FallMists: because i will and i'll send it to all the other graduated seniors
(21:31:36) FallMists: but that's different what whatever you guys still there might be doing
(21:33:09) Sniffnoy: well, I don't know too much about it - I do know it definitely happened, I do know he definitely took his own fish down, and I do know he thanked us for the support but said not to put them up ourselves before Mike and Amit explained to the administration
(21:33:09) FallMists
(21:33:29) FallMists: mike and amit?
(21:33:31) FallMists: explain what
(21:33:39) Sniffnoy: Mike Lazarro and Amit Sid, like I said in the entry
(21:33:51) FallMists: you did?
(21:33:54) FallMists: hmm maybe i missed that
(21:33:55) FallMists: hold
(21:33:59) ***Sniffnoy checks too
(21:34:20) Sniffnoy: ah, I see
(21:34:44) FallMists: ok i see
(21:34:46) FallMists: but besides that
(21:34:51) FallMists: you guys really should write a petition
(21:35:08) FallMists: explaining to the administration that they are letting religion into a PUBLIC school classroom
(21:35:16) FallMists: evolution is *not* a belief
(21:35:21) FallMists: it's nothing something that can be debated
(21:35:30) FallMists: by definition, evolution is a scientific fact.. it happens
(21:35:41) FallMists: whether you believe humans evolved from monkeys or whatever else is another story
(21:35:51) FallMists: you don't have to believe that evolution created humans, but evolution itself happens
(21:36:03) FallMists: evolution - change in a species over time
(21:36:16) Sniffnoy: I don't believe the administration has gotten involved yet... it's just been person complained, Niedosik took it down, we put fish up - no administration yet
(21:36:21) FallMists: i see
(21:36:30) FallMists: so niedosik wasn't ordered to take them down?
(21:36:32) FallMists: are you sure?
(21:36:38) FallMists: my brother tells me he thinks he was
(21:37:30) Sniffnoy: from what I'm told, the person actually threatened to sue (!) and he didn't want to get into any trouble, BICBW
(21:38:09) Sniffnoy: ask someone else
(21:38:14) FallMists: erffffffffff
(21:38:26) FallMists: you're my source of info
(21:38:26) FallMists: bah!
(21:40:17) ***Sniffnoy shrugs
(21:40:29) FallMists: grrrrrr
(21:40:32) FallMists: useless
(21:41:42) Sniffnoy: ooh maybe if this whole thing doesn't end soon, we should try doing something like going to Mr. Sayres and insisting he take down his astronomy posters, as our religion says the other planets orbit the Earth :D
(21:42:08) FallMists: ROFL
(21:42:11) FallMists: that'd be great
(21:42:30) FallMists: you ought to find out whether niedosik was taking independent action or was it admins
(21:42:38) FallMists: if it was the admins, you really should write a petition
(21:42:41) Sniffnoy: yah
(21:42:42) FallMists: b/c that's just wrong
(21:43:05) Sniffnoy: right
(21:43:14) Sniffnoy: I'll ask about it
(21:43:28) FallMists: ok
(21:43:29) FallMists: let me know
(21:43:36) FallMists: i'm visitng the academy tomorrow along w/some friends
(21:43:42) FallMists: around lunchtime or something
(21:45:15) Sniffnoy: well Rajesh says it was administrative orders so now you don't know at all :P
(21:45:21) FallMists: lol
(21:45:28) FallMists: i think it was admins but it's all just rumors
(21:45:33) FallMists: if it is
(21:45:37) Sniffnoy: he says that's what came from Mike and Amit... mabye best just to ask Niedosik himself
(21:45:37) FallMists: petition time
(21:45:45) FallMists: niedosik might not tell
(21:46:06) FallMists: i'm inclined to thinkn the admins ordered it just because they're so freaking scared of lawsuits
(21:46:10) FallMists: rightfully so in a way
(21:46:11) FallMists: but really
(21:46:36) Sniffnoy: brb
(21:46:42) FallMists: k
(21:50:21) Sniffnoy: hah yes it did seem kind of strange that Niedosik was being so cautious... well if Mike and Amit said it was admins' orders I suppose it's probably true
(21:50:46) FallMists: yeah
(21:50:47) FallMists: in that case
(21:50:51) FallMists: confirm and then petition
(21:51:00) FallMists: i really will send somehting around
(21:51:03) FallMists: if it's true
(21:52:00) Sniffnoy: and eventually the astronomy posters :D
(21:52:47) FallMists: hahah'
(21:55:08) fantasychrono: i g0t my b00ks!
(21:55:09) fantasychrono: yay
(21:55:16) Sniffnoy: yaaay! - what books?
(21:55:37) fantasychrono: 4 history
(21:55:40) fantasychrono: i got five books
(21:55:43) fantasychrono: for the paper
(21:55:44) Sniffnoy: oh
(21:55:45) Sniffnoy: heh
(21:56:03) fantasychrono: now i have all my sources ready
(21:56:15) Sniffnoy: what are your other sources?
(21:56:20) fantasychrono: five website
(21:56:20) fantasychrono: s
(21:56:22) fantasychrono: actually
(21:56:25) fantasychrono: i need 3 more journal articles
(21:56:28) fantasychrono: but those are easy to get
(21:56:33) fantasychrono: ill get them tomorrow
(21:56:35) Sniffnoy: ...what's this about journal articles?
(21:56:36) fantasychrono: during school
(21:56:40) fantasychrono: u need evenly balanced
(21:56:44) fantasychrono: journal articles
(21:56:46) fantasychrono: or just plain articles
(21:56:50) fantasychrono: websites
(21:56:54) fantasychrono: books
(21:56:59) Sniffnoy: um... don't you just need 10-15 sources?
(21:57:03) Sniffnoy: where's it say this?
(21:57:05) fantasychrono: evenly distributed
(21:57:11) fantasychrono: it says it near the 10-15
(21:57:13) Sniffnoy: on?
(21:57:32) Sniffnoy: ah, I see it
(21:57:32) fantasychrono: the format paper
(21:57:34) fantasychrono: hehe
(21:57:38) Sniffnoy: crap
(21:57:48) fantasychrono: these books come just shy of saying
(21:57:52) Sniffnoy: oh, wait, it doesn't actually specify what that means
(21:57:55) fantasychrono: "Good job Tom. Your essay is finished."
(21:58:01) fantasychrono: thats what he said
(21:58:19) fantasychrono: The magic grading one
(21:58:37) fantasychrono: I played wiht geometer's sketchpad for hours
(21:58:38) Sniffnoy: well there is no way I am finding 7 more websites and 7 more articles...
(21:58:46) fantasychrono: y u need 7 and 7?
(21:58:57) Sniffnoy: I have 8 books, a website, and a newspaper article
(21:59:01) fantasychrono: heeh
(21:59:06) fantasychrono: but that makes it more than 15 sources
(21:59:10) Sniffnoy: and was planning on adding 1 more website
(21:59:14) Sniffnoy: exactly
(21:59:19) fantasychrono: lol
(21:59:26) fantasychrono: my books:
(21:59:33) fantasychrono: The Rise and Fall of the British Empire
(21:59:41) fantasychrono: Murders on the Nile
(21:59:45) fantasychrono: The Crisis of Islam
(21:59:52) fantasychrono: Unholy War: Terror in the Name of Islam
(22:00:11) fantasychrono: Osama Bin Laden - A War Against the West
(22:00:13) fantasychrono: thats it
(22:00:22) fantasychrono: but they all have really good evidence
(22:00:26) fantasychrono: got them all today
(22:10:09) Sniffnoy: OK, now I do have another website source :P
(22:10:12) fantasychrono: lol
(22:10:13) fantasychrono: good
(22:12:31) Sniffnoy: so now it's 8-2-1 :P
(22:12:36) fantasychrono: hehe
(22:14:20) Sniffnoy: OK, random fact of the day: the speed of a tsunami equals sqrt(g/water depth)
(22:14:25) fantasychrono: YAY!
(22:14:26) Sniffnoy: er
(22:14:28) Sniffnoy: whoops
(22:14:34) Sniffnoy: sqrt(g*water depth)
(22:14:40) fantasychrono: aww
(22:14:40) fantasychrono: hehe
(22:15:15) Sniffnoy: actually that's true for all shallow water waves
(22:15:29) Sniffnoy: (tsunamis act as shallow water waves because of their huge wavelengths)
(22:15:35) fantasychrono: YAY!
(22:19:02) Sniffnoy: OK, make that 3 internet sources
(22:19:10) fantasychrono: GOODy
(22:19:15) fantasychrono: what was the third quesitno on the board for history
(22:19:17) Sniffnoy: (wow I can't believe I'm citing Wikipedia :P )
(22:19:18) fantasychrono: thats due tomorrow - friday
(22:19:25) fantasychrono: there will be no citing of wikipedia
(22:19:27) fantasychrono: ii think he knows about it
(22:19:35) Sniffnoy: hm, true
(22:19:48) Sniffnoy: I'll search for it elsewhere
(22:19:49) fantasychrono: vat is third question ? : (
(22:20:03) Sniffnoy: I don't know - that's due? it wasn't on the homework thing on the left...
(22:22:33) Sniffnoy: gah google turns up nothing
(22:22:43) fantasychrono: lol
(22:22:46) fantasychrono: raaar
(22:22:47) fantasychrono: lol
(22:22:49) Sniffnoy: well
(22:22:50) Sniffnoy: no
(22:22:58) Sniffnoy: it turns up 3 things, all of which appear to be what I want
(22:23:04) fantasychrono: whats freaking me out is that i read like 3/4 of five books
(22:23:05) Sniffnoy: the problem is they're not in English!
(22:23:07) fantasychrono: lol owned
(22:24:02) Sniffnoy: "if we assume 'optil 12 km inn over land' means 'up to 12 km over land'..."
(22:24:09) fantasychrono: LOL
(22:24:11) fantasychrono: haha
(22:24:31) Sniffnoy: ah well
(22:24:36) Sniffnoy: I'll just not mention this
I can't believe the LJ spellchecker doesn't accept "Osama"...
-Sniffnoy
--
Question: if ignorance is fear, and man's ignorance has no limit, isn't
the sum of all fears not defined?
(taken from Josh Zelinsky's away message)
